Sunday, July 10, 2011

C.J. Mahaney Stepping Down From Soveriegn Grace Ministries...

Well, in my last post I said I didn't comment much these days on the SGM Survivors blog...these days I am again because so many things are happening right now.  In January of 2009 I wrote a short post in the form of a letter to C.J. Mahaney and company when Noel's story came out on the Survivor's blog and hope rose up in me and probably many others, that something would finally be done and the truth would come out.  It didn't, and eventually the dust seemed to settle and SGM made it through seemingly unscathed once again.   I thought things would always be that way, but maybe not, maybe not this time. 

A few days ago C.J. announced on his blog that he was stepping down temporarily to deal with some issues.  Shortly after  this, Dave Harvey wrote about this on the Sovereign Grace Ministries website, including mentioning that he would be taking over in C.J.'s absence (no surprise here).  And following all of  this, hundreds of pages of documents written by Brent Detwiler were released anonymously to wikileaks detailing very specifically longstanding serious issues within the highest echelons of SGM leadership.

 Aaron and I have been sitting together at the computer for too many hours reading through these documents, which I admit would be very boring to most people.  To us, it is fascinating.  You see, to hundreds of people who have been admiring followers of SGM leaders only to later leave for a variety of reasons, these documents say to us over and over "you are not crazy".  We thought we knew this, we thought we had moved past the pronouncement of insanity we felt for leaving, but this solid tangible proof has been therapeutic I think. 

Yes, some of the contents are disturbing of course, but it's truth.  It's what really happened.  Truth I can deal with!  I know many cannot deal with the truth and will want to hide from it or try to hide it still from others, but many people will benefit from it, some even against their will. 

This is not gossip, not bitter angry people trying to destroy a work of God, this is TRUTH.  Truth is good, even if the truth of a matter is not good, truth itself is GOOD.  With truth comes grace, Jesus comes with truth and grace.  So the fact is that even if truth is painful and difficult sometimes, to reject it is to also reject grace.  This is something we should all be terrified to do.  Think about it.

As for my personal feelings and thoughts about all of this, I am already long past anger and bitterness thankfully.  Overwhelmingly I feel sad, sad to think of what families are going through because of all this.  Yes, including the leaders themselves.  They have created an impossible system of  works based righteousness and God endorsed condemnation that is a lie and sets everyone of for absolute failure.  These failures are no surprise, they are/were inevitable.  I've lived that way myself and the fact that I may have caused less damage to people than C.J. is only because  my sphere of influence is smaller and my influence less powerful. 

I want to see things properly dealt with, leaders who have hurt people should make it right, whatever it takes.  Those who have shown themselves to be untrustworthy should be removed from positions that require trust.  Trust is not to demanded as a law of God, it is to be earned and guarded as a rare privilege.  Systems and doctrines that produce bad fruit over and over again should be very closely examined in a spirit of true humility, you know, that willingness to admit that you may be wrong.  The willingness to own up to your wrongs, admit them publicly, and make difficult changes, real changes.

I want to see people set free from lies and legalism.  Free from fear of man and rules and regulations.  Free from pretending and trying and working and failing.  I want to see people experience the unfailing love of their Father who is well-pleased with them!  I want to see people learn to rest in that love.

So I'm thinking of you all and praying for you.  Some of you I  know and love, some of you I don't know but I still love.  I haven't forgotten you, ever.  Because I was part of SGM, you are still part of me in a special way.  I still think of you fondly and I  still thank God for you all.    And I don't care what you've done or think you've done, or haven't done, THERE IS NO  CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS!  NONE NONE NONE!!!  So really, there is no reason to fear the truth.


5 comments:

silent wings said...

This is the relentless love of God. I have no personal investment in what is going on but I pray His perfect love will cast out ALL fear so that personal and corporate healing will begin and continue. What you said here is so true for everybody: "Truth is good, even if the truth of a matter is not good, truth itself is GOOD. With truth comes grace, Jesus comes with truth and grace. So the fact is that even if truth is painful and difficult sometimes, to reject it is to also reject grace. This is something we should all be terrified to do." Embracing this for all areas of my life.

Henry said...

Hi Julie --

This is Lucy from "Sojourn in Sovereign Grace" blog. I just wanted to thank you personally for your comments and for taking the time to read our story. I know it's an investment of anyone's time, so that time and your encouragement mean a lot to me.

Now that some diehard SGMers are finding the link on Kris' site because of the CJ debacle, we're taking some lumps for the telling of our story. Ah, well. We knew that would probably happen but wanted to tell it anyway, even though it's getting hard right now.

If people think others can only be wronged or wounded in huge, explosive ways, all the people who are quietly hurting get abandoned by the wayside, forgotten. SGM is a master of this, on both bigger and smaller levels.

But I so know what you mean when you say you'd be an atheist if you could stop believing but you just can't.

I love this quote from my favorite "Christian" author, Phillip Yancey:

"Why am I a Christian? I sometimes ask myself, and to be perfectly honest the reasons reduce to two: (1) the lack of good alternatives, and (2) Jesus. Brilliant, untamed, tender, creative, slippery, irreducible, paradoxically humble — Jesus stands up to scrutiny. He is who I want my God to be."

I love that. I totally agree. But apart from that, I'm hanging on with my fingernails, you know?

jul said...

Thanks for praying Cirra! I can see God at work and I know he's doing tons and tons of stuff I have no idea about. This is why I think we won't be bored in eternity, so many stories to be told...

jul said...

Lucy! Thanks so much for commenting! It just so happened that my husband was away and I was completely alone at home (which is unheard of, ok I still had the animals) and was able to sit down and read your whole amazing story. I can't understate how much I appreciate your honesty and of course your sense of humor.

Sorry about the nasty messages. I don't get very many myself but I'm not linked on survivors or anything. I have gotten a few here and there and it's no fun. I still can't understand why people think that makes them look better.

And I love your quote! I can totally relate to that. Keep hanging on, though I think it's more a matter of him hanging on to us. My God is pretty used to me ha ha and actually seems to get a kick out me. I don't think most people understand why...

Deborah L. Collins said...

Voice of Grace, you are my sister in Christ, saved by God's grace through faith in him. I appreciate your stand against legalism of all kinds. Sin is no longer the issue with God as he was in Christ "reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses against them." (2 Cor. 5:19). My own Bible blog: MidActsDispensationalist at www.midactsdisp.blogspot.com explores the reason WHY and HOW God's grace has appeared for us today.

Keep the faith!
Your sister in Christ,
Deborah Collins